Wellness Zone

This is What I Did | Dave Johnson's AVINI Story

• Nikki Walton

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Dave Johnson was looking for any way to help the body to become healthier and also less hospitable to any ‘bad cells’.  Exploiting the metabolic differences between healthy normal cells and the bad ones. 

Ideally, you should come out on the other side healthier than when you came in!

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Good morning, everyone, and hope everyone is having a good day so far. What a beautiful day to be in a Vini and I've already been on the phone, imagine sharing my story and I thought I would do that this morning. And, let me kick that off going into a little detail. This last weekend was wonderful. We got the chance to go down and visit our oldest son, Nathan, and his family. And, he's got a pretty good sized family. He's got eight kids. And it was a, it's been a marvelous month for him. Just this month, let's see, he's got a daughter that, just got, engaged. We went to, attend, a farewell of another son who is going on a two year mission for his church. And, that's pretty exciting. And also just looking at their happy family. Everything going along, I was, just looking at their youngest son, Peter, who is 12 years old now, and just reflecting that this, wonderful life that we're living right now could have been a whole lot different because, back, about 12 years ago, Peter, he wasn't even a year old, and we got the phone call, that Nathan, that just found, the doctor called and says, I just did some tests and found out you got cancer and it's really bad, get to the hospital and, it was bad, they immediately took him up to Virginia Mason in Seattle and found out that, it was, already in his spinal fluid, it was in his brain, it was everywhere, he was given about a 5 percent chance of survival and I'm just thinking, wow, we, we know people, we've got some friends that are about that same, similar situation where, he just died of a heart attack and left a big family and I'm just thinking, oh, why does life have to be so hard? And while he was in there as all. Not real hopeful, leader of our church, was making the rounds and just, doing some ministering and he asked Nathan if he would like to have a blessing. And so he actually anointed him with oil, gave him a blessing, and interestingly he promised him that he would recover and live. And, after he pronounced that, he told me, he says, that wasn't what I was going to be saying more. I guess a blessing of more comfort and ease. And he says that didn't come from me. And anyway, he rallied, recovered and, later checkup. What they found was that, it wasn't back to doctors actually said that your stuff was so virulent, if it hasn't come back by now, it looks like it, it really is gone. And so, wow. Almost 12 years later, what a great blessing. And I've also thought and heard this many times, you probably have too, that if God really wanted to mess everything up, all they'd have to do is answer everybody's prayers the way they wanted them answered. But on this particular incident, I do know there is miracles. I've seen them, and this is one of them, and especially, Grateful for this one. And so with that, some years later, six years ago now, I can't believe it. Six years ago, I flunked a physical and it led me to, the doctor really concerned and saying, you need to go get a prostate biopsy and knowing a little bit about the infamous, prostate biopsy with it with the 12 long needles. I just think it, Can I do something else? Is there something, how about an MRI? And she said, yeah, that will work. That will give a good indication. And so I went in with that and then I got a concerned phone call, come and see me. And, it was, one of the, office people and I said, well, can you tell me, what it's about. I said, no, we got the appointment. I says, well, okay. Could you just say whether it's good or bad? And she says, well, your appointment is Thursday at 10. And that's the doctor's day off. Well, obviously not too not very good news. And so Valerie and I are in the office with just the doctor and that's it. Everybody else is not there and she says, come back here and sit down. And so it opens up this folder and they discovered that there's 5 lesions. Growing in there and, oh goodness, one of the things I was interested, I remember as a backhanded compliment is I can't believe it's you. You're one of my oldest healthy patients, but I didn't feel very healthy there coming back home with that folder trying to process what she had just told me, realizing I have a time bomb. Inside me, hearing many other people, learning of their dire, circumstances and watching them progress. That's bad. But when it's you, that's very personal when it's actually the folder with your name on it. And you're thinking this is me. And also being told that, going through these treatments, it's not going to be very entertaining and ultimately you'll, you will probably left, incontinent and, romance, things like that are going to be, it's going to be a different nature of going forward. And so I'm just trying to, home. And so I, opened up the folder and took a couple of pictures and texted him to my Bishop. And, also he's a nurse, so he's got a medical background and just, a few, Well, probably five minutes later, he's knocking on the door and, trying to console me and, but saying essentially the same thing. Yeah, going through this, yeah, it doesn't look like there's any bone involvement. It looks treatable. But, yeah, you'll probably wear the pants and, romance. You'll have a different life, but it'll be a good life and all this sort of thing. And I'm just thinking, no, there's got to be something else out there. And so I'm thinking, okay, can I have a blessing and while I'm, having the blessing in my mind, I'm praying, please Lord, I'd like a blessing like my son and, it wasn't that, but I was blessed that I would be able to find answers and I would be guided and I believe that I really was because I found myself really quickly, talking to Robin West, Chip and Marcy Littlejohn and learning about something that was made a dramatic difference for them, also realizing, some other friends that I had, Larry and Pat Proffitt who had undergone, a challenge, Pat, had something going on with her kidneys and she didn't want to do the standard of care and so she reached out to Marcy earlier and she'd had results and I'm thinking in my mind, okay, I'm going to do exactly what they're doing. And hopefully I'll get the same results if I do what they're doing and it was so encouraging. It sounded a lot more fun than going through the standard of care where it would definitely mess me up. And it certainly would not be pleasant. That was confirmed with a friend down the street that, about the same age. And, in fact, his lesions were more contained. Mine, the borders of a couple of those was pretty vague. And so they said, yeah, it's not necessarily inside. So there'll probably be additional collateral damage as we, go through your procedure. But just seeing him, the torment and how it ravaged his body and messed him up. I just thought, yeah, I know that's not an option. And so I was looking at different options. I thought I'm going to cover all my bases. My chiropractor was real passionate about this sort of thing, and he was referring people down to Reno, which had a pretty successful procedure. And so I was looking at that to the point where I'd actually sent my paperwork down to him and, actually paid for a consultation with him. And he says, yeah, I think we've got a good shot at helping you. And yeah, it won't be as invasive and, you'll still have real quality of life. But ultimately with, the treatments and staying there for a few weeks, it'd probably be about 50, 000 and I'm thinking, okay, that's going to be my plan B and my plan A is going to be, if I can do this at home and I think in my mind, that idea of here's a real health crisis and don't just stay at home, But that's exactly what I was doing, but that I had the resources of conventional medicine and their diagnostics, and I wanted to watch that, but also I was working with something that appeared, to be helping a lot of other people, and then I just thought I. Okay. I need to really take charge of myself. I want to get ideas from every everybody, but I want to really look and do everything I can't. And about that same time, a really good friend who I'd met through my earlier company, Roger Drummer, who was, actually, a corporate spokesman for the company. Product genius, here's the guy, the master herbalist, new Chinese medicine, held patents and, was a nutritional consultant to rock stars. Really amazing guy. And he knew how to eat right and all of those sort of things, just a real healthy, disciplined guy. And all of a sudden I found out he had stage 3 in the bladder, and that they wanted to take his bladder and his prostate out. That would be life altering. And he thought the same idea there, there's got to be something else. And so essentially in visiting with him, he talked about how he went into a ketogenic diet and also, did a 10 day water fast to kick it off. And he went back and got scoped and his bladder was clean as a whistle. And I thought, Oh my goodness, this is, I'm going to do that too. And so pretty much right at the same time I was visiting with Chip and Marcy, I was visiting with Roger Drummer, and so I thought, I'm just going to kick this off with a bang. And then also in my research, if you look into alternative stuff at all, you're going to quickly come across Otto Warburg. And what a genius. And, it's fascinating that about a hundred years ago, he had won a Nobel prize. And, essentially it came down to just exactly what these bad cells were and one of his quotes, I'll say that cancer above all other diseases have countless secondary causes, but even for cancer, there's only one primary cause. And that primary cause of cancer is the replacement of the respiration of oxygen in normal body cells with the fermentation of sugar. And so essentially, they have this perverted method of generating energy. Super inefficient, because instead of doing oxidation or aerobic, It's anaerobic and it's super inefficient. They have this amazing, hunger. It said that they, it's about 200 times more, uptake of glucose than ordinary cells. They just really, they're very hungry, voracious, and that fits into this idea of reading some other things that, that, they're way, way different. And so here's some of the stuff that I was reading. I'll just read this to you, that the cancer originates from injured respiration. So therapeutic strategy should be. Able to understand that cancer cells are not mutated versions of cells with superpowers programmed by an omniscient supervillain. They're damaged cells trying to survive their own misguided way. They can be corralled, guided and manipulated and killed. And this was a thought when, in my reading, it says cancer therapy could be a gentle rehabilitation. You should come out on the other side healthier. Then when you came in, oh my goodness, that was so encouraging to thinking of the euphemism that I've been thinking about is, wow, we've discovered, cockroaches infesting your house, let's take care of it, we're going to burn your house down, so much of the normal treatment is not very discriminating between, the healthy and the unhealthy. Part of you. And I just thought, wow, let's be real selective. There's huge metabolic differences between good cells and bad cells. If we could just exploit those differences. And so off I went right at first thinking, okay, water fast and understanding that Yeah. If you're a sugar eater, and that's the only pathway you have in regular cells, they've got alternate sources of energy, and that's ketone bodies, and they like that. And in fact, your brain loves it, moves along merrily. And actually fasting is good for you. And, it triggers another wonderful word. There's a couple of really neat words, apoptosis and, autophagy. And those are really good things. And, fasting, I think in my mind, okay, you got all this bad stuff, senescent cells or zombie cells, garbage, different things like that. And I just kind of think of it as, just gathering stuff around the yard and making a burn pile and just getting rid of the garbage. And that's what can really happen is just declutter your body with garbage. But also fasting, if, you look at the way they diagnose, how the treatments are working, they actually, Take the knowledge that cancer loves sugar, and so they'll radioactively tag sugar, give it IV, and then do a PET scan, and it just lights up like Christmas tree lights, wherever the bad stuff is, if it's still there, and so, wow, just thinking about that, you think, okay, I don't think I'll eat sugar and on one of my YouTube, explorations was this guy that had this really scary malignancy that they couldn't control in his brain, but he was very super disciplined and he just got rid of, carbs, and just stayed in proteins and things like that. And the thing couldn't grow. it didn't go away, but it was stable and he just had a great life by just being highly disciplined. And I thought, okay, ultimately I'm thinking in my mind, as far as, all of this stuff going on is, okay, Do I want to live? I think, okay, I get it. This is going to take some work. It's going to be, really seriously what I'm going to do everything I possibly can because I want to live in fact, visiting with my doctor talking to her about fasting 10 days and she commented. She says, well, I have a hard time fasting one day, 10 days. That's 10 days. Too much, but in my mind, that's nothing compared to, okay, would you rather skip a few days of eating or have somebody put a port in you and, or, poison into your bloodstream? I'm just saying, let me think. Okay. Fasting is actually good for you, poison, not so much. And so I'm just thinking, okay, I'm just going to really take total commitment. And again, I'm going to do everything I can that will strengthen my body. I'm going to do everything I can to Make my body as inhospitable as possible to the bad cells. And so that, that was the number two, the one thing, fasting number two. And I think the big thing more than anything and all my studies and just hearing what other people were doing, including Marcy. Was take lots of, what we call today, cell defender. And so there's this famous, thing called the Marcy dose. And so on the bottle that talks about taking 10 drops twice a day. And if you do that, I think that's marvelous, but you want to have enough of that to go around for those bad cells. And I followed what she did. I took 10 drops every waking hour. And I had some on my nightstand, and I'd carry a bottle in my pocket, so if I was just thinking about it, I thought, don't want to let them things rest, I'm just going to keep feeding them bad stuff, at the same time, they're starving, they're under great stress because of the fasting, and also, Marcy talked to me about, the mushroom formula, so I got on that too, in addition to that, I was looking around and thinking, okay, what else can I do, Well, first off, just a 10 day, I wasn't doing much of anything. I did think, okay, one of the things that goes way back into the 1940s is people with this challenge that they would grow, wheat grass. They'd grow wheat and it'd be maybe three or four inches tall and then they'd snip it and juice it. And there's just lots of rich things. And as I got into that sort of thing, there's this Dr. Hagawara. And he studied different cereal grasses and he felt that barley grass was the best. He was a really awesome scientist, had his own drug company in Japan and actually poisoned himself with just being around toxic substances. And to build his own health back, he invented a process where you could get sprouts and instead of juicing them and all that work, he essentially freeze dried it. And sprayed it into just this powder of just concentrated goodness and vitality, but there's a lot of really neat things in their enzymes and life and alkaline forming and all of the things that I thought this would be a good thing. And so I did the water fast, but I would do a few spoonfuls of that throughout the day, which is negligible calories. So I think it kept my body in shape. And ketosis and all the benefits that the fasting would do, but maybe a little added benefit of this highly, concentrated alkalinizing enzymes and rich things. And that was it there. There's also a YouTube video. And it has this really nice lady at the TED talk and it says, do you like candy? I like candy. Do you like candy? And smiling and everybody's happy. And then she says, so does cancer. And that's how it begins. Well, at that point I thought, okay, no, Nothing that they like, I'm going to eat. So, so I just, cut out all of that sort of thing. In fact, just eliminated processed food of any sort. Went into lots of veggies, especially, cruciferous, because there seems to be anti carcinogenic Things in stuff like broccoli and Brussels sprouts and so forth, essentially, as much as I could fresh veggies above ground, the below ground or more starchy, which as glycemic, only good oil. Just went into olive oil, ate an avocado every day, raw nuts, not cooked ones because they, roasted nuts that can alter their fats. Just again, no processed food as much fresh as I could, got into eating a big fresh salad every day, things like that. And, Just started looking at other things, apricot pit kernels, you name it. There's a thing called activated citrus pectin, that seemed to be really good. I was watching a video and, I was, having some frankincense, cause I'd heard that was good, nasty stuff, but super expensive. But I thought, well, I'll do it. And then, I'm watching this video and this guy says I had stage four. The doctor gave me. Six months to live with a prostate and he says, I got on black seed oil and everything went away and I, I'd never heard of that before. And so I looked that up and started reading all upside, no downside whatsoever. So I started having a couple of tablespoons of that a day and I noticed it tasted nasty like frankincense, turpins and things like that. So I, I dropped the frankincense and just did the black seed, which I still do, cause it's not very expensive and. Got lots of benefit. Other than taste, don't mix it up in your shake. It'll ruin it. You just, drink it, chase it with some water and then have something nice. What I'll do is I'll chase it with a spoonful of really good fish oil and something like that. So, anyway, just lots of different things. Now I'm very anxious, what's happening. And so just three weeks after my first MRI, I asked if I can have another one. And the doctor calls all concerned. Saying those five legions, they're bigger and that scared me. I thought, well, how could that be? I'm not feeding them anything. In fact, I'm starving them, of those three weeks, 10, 10 days was just, the water fast. So I called chip. And he was excited. He says, that's great news. And I says, it is? And he says, yeah, you're winning. The MRI, all that's disclosing is the shape and the size. But what it's really showing is the battlefield. And you're winning the war. And they're bigger because they're dead. That's what happens. And so I called my doctor and she says, Well, yeah, that sounds plausible. It's three weeks for something to change that quick. And so I was just very encouraged. And so as time went along, just keeping doing that feeling really marvelous. Because I'm motivated to eat better than I've ever eaten to take care of myself better than ever and just doing all of the things like I can and, but ultimately my kids are saying, have you been in and, started your stuff yet? And I say, no, I said, you need to do to go. And I'm just thinking, maybe another MRI. And then I'm just going back and forth, oh. Biopsy. And so I thought, okay, I'll do it. So I made the appointment. I go in and, part of the biopsy procedure of course, is when they stick that probe up in you. And, essentially. To know where they're going, it's ultrasound. And so Valerie and I, the doctor and the nurse are in there. And all of a sudden I'm just hearing, there's, definitely some confusion because the doctor can't find any lesions. And I'm thinking, Oh, I think I guess I'll be on my way. Pull it out. And I just quite encouraged by the conversation that's going on with him and the nurse and he says, no, I've got your paperwork. I highly recommend. Let's go ahead and do it and then we'll know for sure. And so went ahead and if you're curious, it's, discomfort wise, it's about the same as a good dental procedure. In fact, they stick needles through there to deaden it. And then the actual treatment. Plunge. The sensation is a lot like, those spring loaded finger prickers, except more. And, I would say the psychological trauma is probably the biggest just knowing what they're doing. But anyway, when it was done, the doctor left and nurses are cleaning up and everything and I'm asking her, I says, well, hey, it was an interesting conversation you're having with a doctor and says, yes. I says, what, that sounds very encouraging. And she says, yes, it does. And also the ultrasound is printed out and I'm saying, well, you're probably not really trained in, that sort of thing, but you've probably seen a lot of them, How's it look to you? And all of this conversation, I'm surprised because she usually nurses, they don't say anything, just talk to the doctor, but she was very conversant and said, yeah, it looks really good. And a couple of days later, I got a call from Dr. Ellis. And in fact, I missed the first call, and so I called back and I says, Hey, the doctor left a message that he had some good news. Can you tell me? And they says, No, we're going to get Dr. Ellis. He wants to tell you himself. And I'm thinking in my mind, Oh, this is really good. And also I'm thinking, The doctor wanted to say to himself,'cause probably all those phone calls, a lot of'em, it isn't good news. And so he called and says, yep, the tissues came in and, you're good to go. Come back and see me in a year. And I just, felt so blessed. Also, another month or so went by and I got a call from Dr. Bob in Reno. He says, Hey. We need to get you down. You're ready to schedule us as well. Actually, I just had a biopsy and you've got some great news. Nothing's there. And the doctor says, well, that's wonderful. Do you mind telling me what you did? So he was interested, but anyway, I am just so ever grateful. I tell that story to a lot of folks. I thought, well, okay, you've been, maybe you've heard it too, but I thought, okay, that might be a good call to make today. And, Hey, in fact, Chip, if you're on the line, if you want to come in and make any comment, that might be a fun thought, because you, had the rewards of working with a lot of people over a lot of years. And I look at Avini as a business to, that you get paid by doing good, but boy, the big payment is just a wonderful reward of showing people that there might be a better way for them. I found a better way for me and every day I'm thankful. Well, yeah, David, can you hear me first of all? Okay. Well, it's a super duper topic for a call. I mean, certainly One of the one of the topics and calls of a lifetime, and it was made of many calls of a lifetime along the way. And I know some of you are listening today and thinking that you're one of the people on those calls. You're the person who needs the help or the person who knows something. In Marcy's situation, I was the caregiver and she was the sick person. I knew it was her life. It was on the line. And Dave, too, when he called, and so the conversation, of course, between Dave and Marcy may be the most powerful because they're in the exact same situation, just male versus female. And, I remember getting that call and just kind of a comfort that we, knew great things that can help, that can even stand alone. And who knows how many of those things that Dave listed, could stand alone. But his theory was, what if I did everything right at once? What would that be like? And then the most gigantic statement out of Dave today was, just a simple one. And I still do. He was talking about the black seed oil and he said, well, I, so I took that and I still do well, he took a Vini products and he still does and he sponsored a few people and he still does that, I know that sounds like such a simple thing, but it's the magic of Dave Johnson when he finds something good, he has the discipline to keep doing it. And there's magic in that. There's power in that, not to use something as an antidote to bad behavior or use it as, a backup to some other business, to actually, look and say, that's what I prefer. And I'm just going to do lots and lots of that. I have one other thought. And, I don't know if this is the right call to have it on, but, uh, to have Dave Johnson join you in network marketing, what an experience of a lifetime. And I will say, a guy like that, nobody ever actually sponsors somebody like Dave. He eventually sponsors himself. If you find the right thing and he's looking and you get to have. These conversations and you guys will have a chance to along the way, and I call it a summit meeting at the top of our profession where you're talking to somebody that's one of the best people in the world at what you do, and maybe they're in a pickle like this, or maybe they're looking. Maybe it's a business moment, whatever kind of moment it is. And, are you still doing that thing that Marcy did? Those zeolite drops. Well, yes, we are. As a matter of fact, they'll think it's one of the most important things we've ever come across. And then add that the medicinal mushrooms. I remember Roger drummer that was in this story was on the first guy that I listened to was a hired gun, essentially brought in by Nikon to talk about it. Their immunity product, which now is essentially graduated and graduated. A Vini Z immunity is that concept who knows any one of those mushrooms might be able to stand alone, but we've got them all. And then we've got nano to jump into that. Spray that he was talking about with Otto Warburg and the, fermentation, the mitochondria go bad in the bad cells and they don't, they can't make energy the old way. So they're like a bunch of little moonshiners. What do they have to have? Sugar and anaerobic bacteria. Kill the anaerobic bacteria with the Avini Nano spherical sugar and deny them any carbs to make what they want to make by, turning away from the sugar and Dave does that. You know, easy to do, even easier not to do. That's Jim Rohn coming back at you. Those are just some of the thoughts. I remember one of the statements between Dave and I, in the early moments, and, of course, these stories, Marcy's story, Dave's story, they're so much easier to tell after you've won. When you're in the fight, telling the story is tougher, especially if you come from this world where you represent healthy things. Like Roger and Dave and some of the other people in the story, Marcy too. It's embarrassing to get sick if you represent healthy things. And on the side, we're talking to Dave and he said, can we do this? And I said, I just remember the thought coming into my mind. If we put our heads together and do everything we know, we can outsmart this thing. And that's exactly what we did. Chip, thank you. I'm really, I'm glad we met, 30 years ago and I'm glad we re met six years ago. It has been an absolute joy and a treat and I just, one more little thing along the way. I've listened to Dave. I wore out, I kid you not, wore out cassette tapes of Dave speaking, Dennis Williams speaking, others of you probably speaking, Larry Prophet, people that have arrived here. War out listening to them. And there was a point at which, the things had blown up the things that we represented. And I actually lamented that I might never really get to be around or talk to these people again. And all of a sudden we do. So it is such a joy and a gift. And as you know, I treasure every moment, including this moment. Well, another thing I treasure, and also, being unitedly frustrated with you because, when it was working, And, it helped me. I thought, okay, I've got a new calling. I need to let other people know about this. And so I referred people. To you, and, you or I really weren't getting paid. I know I remember that conversation when you called and said you were okay again. And I actually, I know I said this to you point blank. I said, Dave, I hate to tell you this, but we just saved your life with a network marketing product. And there is no opportunity to go with it because there's an argument between the owner and the biochemist. And there is no opportunity to go with it. And it, I don't know what kind of patience it took after that. But interestingly enough, and I think maybe this is the ultimate test, Dave kept representing the product, Marcy and I kept representing Rick Deitch and the products, when there was absolutely nothing coming back from doing it. When there was no income, no opportunity, we kept doing it. Money is fun, but the real reason to work is purpose and helping other people. And I just, I just love that. I think fundamentally, if you really want to be successful in network marketing or anything, we need other people. But if your primary idea is I want to join it so I can make a lot of money, the more likely you won't make any. If you're thinking, I want to help other people, the other stuff just comes as a byproduct. I just love Aveni, because if you do it right, it makes you the sort of person that you ought to be anyway. And It, it's so wonderful to have something so exciting to share. It isn't just stuff we really have something, that's just wonderful and awesome to share. Every, everybody needs it. Everybody needs to know about it and, I'm glad it can help people that actually know they've got a problem. But I love Rick Deitch, when he's asked what his favorite story is the one he's never heard. And that fits into the idea of, that we should all be thinking, and why we should be taking this is may you never know what you're preventing. The best way to treat a problem is never have it in the first place. And so, wow, when you add that in, healthy people, above and beyond really need to be taking all of these products. I'd like to add one more thing about the nature of the people that are on the call with us, Dave. I think they get to be who they really are here. I think they all have inclination to help people. And here you get to express it and the way I describe networking is there's a big computer keeping track of who told who and a little bit of each product that's sold comes back up the line and allows people to do this for their work instead of something else. And if you truly can do something like this for your work instead of other work that, I remember the thought that could happen. When I first understood what you were doing and I started trying to study and learn, from you and Dennis and Ruth and people that, are my lifelong mentors. And I thought, how. Much. I wanted to do this kind of work. And here we are. The dream was the dream became along the way, not to have some bureaucracy hanging over our head that didn't understand who we were and what we wanted to do. And that's part of what a Vini is. The other part of it is that Rick Deitch. Was compelled to find ways to help people to help them instead of harming them or risking something to help them and his discoveries of a lifetime to answer that question. Are the other half of what a Venus. Oh, and the other part is, we got, Neil driving the bus and, so we got somebody trustworthy in all areas. That's the magic to have him step in instead of a bureaucracy. We've got a guy that, we all love and trust that is one of us and has the skills to, he sponsored Marcy and I a couple of times along the way. Okay. I had no idea he could do this. I don't think there's precious few people in the world that could start from zero and move something ahead like Neil Roth has and I thought I knew him pretty well. But, like you say, he can run something the size of a beanie with half his brain tied behind his back and likes it, and likes doing it. What a blessing and grateful for he and Rick, Magic people and Doug Dickey for jumping in and running the roads like he does. Gratitude and every single person on this call for chiming in and we hope we expect we think it's up to you what you think that you look at this and you say, Oh, that's me. I can do that. This merits my work life. This merits me coming out of retirement and having an encore career, whatever it is in your situation. Maybe this is where you're going to come to learn to work in this way. What a treat. You will see the world. I just got to add one other thing. I'm happiest I've ever been. A few years ago I was thinking, Oh, my high watermark in my life was 20 years ago. That was when I was at the peak, and being on a sinking ship as big as it was still slowly dying, still going down backwards, not being able to help a new person build a business. That really takes a lot out of you and. And I just look at, Neil, Rick, all, everybody's happier than they've ever been. I remember some of the stories, Rick, when he was, he's done billions of dollars in products, but it's always been working for somebody else. And so when he would formulate something, he would talk about the frustration of, creating. And then the bureaucracy would say, we don't like that price point, what can you take out? This is what we want to have, the price point. So you're gonna, you're gonna have to make it a little worse, so we can have better margins. And that's gotta be frustrating, because you see Rick smile when he's making something as best as he can, and continually improving it. As an example, the cell defender I took six years ago, it's not as good as it is today. And, I'm sure the fiber product that we're using today is not as good as the stuff that the originally launched 20 years ago. Yeah, everybody, is happier because, when you're in your own driver's seat and you've got control of everything, that makes you happier. I got to recognize Valerie Johnson because there was obviously a couple of blow up moments along the way when everything was going to fall out from under us again. And I remember Colin and. Doing the best I could to apologize to you guys, for what was happening that here we went and we went with Rick and that was right, that the bureaucracy was blowing up and then it was blowing up again and Valerie, like the girl you met at the dance all those years ago that seemed to be like permanently happy, she said, No, no, it's the opposite. She said, I finally get to see Dave be Dave again. Don't feel bad about it, because we're back in the fight. We're back at it and we have something, we will have something to offer to people so that they can win too. And that's what he loves. Absolutely. I'm excited. Oh my goodness. I don't think we're going to run out of stuff to talk about Dave. Yeah, the future's bright. All right. Love you. And, so excited to be engaged in this great cause with everybody. Let's share this, let people know about it. Take care. All right. Bye, Dave.